Steelers #1 wrote on October 02, 2008 11:02 AM: How many of these post come from true LV,NV natives like myslef. Probably not many if any at all. With that said I have the earned right to complain about UNLV football.

Ever since I was a young boy UNLV football has been poor at best. Yes, they give us hope every so often by beating a ranked team (Wisconsin, Arizona State, etc) only to get crushed like this past Saturday night by UNR, Nevada or whatever you want to call them. Matter of fact I had five past UNR players sitting in front of us during the game and that was not fun to endure. I have sat and watched all of the UNLV football teams over the years who were coached by Harvey Hide, Wayne Nunnely, Jim Strong, Jeff Horton, John Robinson and Mike Sanford. Guess what folks they all were losing coaches (90% of the time) and nothing will change any time soon. I hope I am wrong but after all of these coaches and years of losing I just don't see this program changing into a contender and winning division one college football program. Say what you want but the proof is in the losses verses the wins (look them up).

Go Steelers...

NEVADA FOOTBALL wrote on September 29, 2008 03:16 PM: Who cares whether our name is Nevada or UNR. All that matters is that the cannon stays blue for another year. CANNON!!!!

RebCam wrote on September 29, 2008 03:14 PM: Emotional, yes I am. About my wife, children, career, politics, church and yes, my teams. Welcome to sports. Where do you think the term "fan" comes from?

When speaking of cowards, in your case, a coward is one who is too scared to back his team when things don't go right 100% of the time. Instead, a coward (that's you) uses brain damaged comments as excuses for a lack of loyalty. How is it intelligent to fire a coach who is currently 3-2 and would have to pay the remaider of his contract with not a dime to spare in the budget and then find a coach that's better without paying him more than Sanford.

Speaking of intelligence, have you ever heard of the term "hypothetical"? That is what I was using when giving a "hypothetical" for winning all but one game against reno. I really hope that you understood that and were just misconstruing my words on purpose like a politician.

And lastly, I'll answer your question. I hate losing, period. So losing just one season is almost unacceptable to me. However, I acknowledge that Mike took over a wilted program, had to recruit the right personnel for the spread and had to deal with the state budget issues. All that said, I agree mostly with you, it should take no more than 4 seasons to expect a winning record. This is his 4th year and I have faith that they will have a winning record after this season. If they do not, at the end of the season, which is the appropriate time (not midseason), I would express my views on his potential departure. Not like you where you call for his head right now.

BTW, my co-worker went to Harvard and understood that sentence. I guess it's just you.

Reno Reno Reno Reno wrote on September 29, 2008 12:04 PM: Type UNR into any search engine and see what comes up. Wow it's your home page.

And what does that home page say? hmm. "University of Nevada, Reno"

I find it so funny that UNR fans are ashamed of the city their school is in. I mean c'mon, that's where they film that Reno 911 show. You should be proud of that. HA HA

Reb fan wrote on September 29, 2008 11:49 AM: RebCam,

Emotional much? Big fan of all caps too, I see. Sorry but capital letters don't make your posts any more intelligent.

Since you'd rather just call people names than try to make an intelligent post, I'll end my correspondence with you with this:

First, we couldn't win every other game this year besides UNR because we've also lost to Utah. And if you think winning out is even a remote possibility. . . well I'd say the 7 TDs we allowed on saturday would suggest otherwise.

Second, the whole ignorance equals cowardice argument makes no sense whatsoever. Neither does your sentence trying to explain it. "You are a coward not cuz you speak up but what you choose to speak up about with ignorance." . . . huh? Is that english? LOL. Pot meet kettle.

Third, why can't I talk about his past record? Just because he has three wins this year, I'm supposed to forget about only having 2 wins the last 3 years? That's your problem. It's not just "one freakin' loss." It's a culture of losing. And a culture that needs to be changed.

Finally, since you didn't bother to answer the first time, I'll ask again. When am I allowed to think a change should be made? You speak about "several winnable games left," well what if we don't win any of those? You're assuming (in your post) that because we are 3-2 and have winnable games, that we will have a winning record this year. But what if...

How many years in a row of losing are acceptable? Everyone has their own opinion, but I say 4 is enough.

Let the name calling commence.

RebCam wrote on September 29, 2008 11:07 AM: I almost forgot. Ed, I love your reference to Harry Reid, can't stand that guy. He has aweful politics and I'm shocked someone has actually publicly smacked him.

And as for you Mr. O., your own website calls you The University of Nevada, Reno. Look it up and weep.

RebCam wrote on September 29, 2008 10:59 AM: To Reb Fan, I too am a season ticket holder for both basketball and football so don't sell me on the waiting game, you're preaching to the choir. If we won every game this year and the next ,except the reno game, would you still fire Sanford? If so, you're a moron. I'll take a winning record over the reno win any day, just for now. We need to win to get more prestige and recruits. You are a coward not cuz you speak up but what you choose to speak up about with ignorance. HOW THE HELL CAN WE FIRE SANFORD WHEN HE IS 3-2, THE TEAM IS OBVIOUSLY MORE TALENTED AND IMPROVED AND THE UNIVERSITY HAS NO MONEY!!!! THINK!!! Don't you keep a budget at home, it's simple math! WAKE UP!!! You see one freakin' loss and now you want mutiny! THAT'S COWARDESS I SAY!!!! Just forget the emotional ASU win, I guess that means nothing now! Forget that we're winning and have several winnable games left on the schedule. Forget that with the tiniest of budgets Sanford has recruited some very good talent and has, again, until now, a winning record. Do you blatantly ingnore the facts or are you illiterate.

And don't try and tell me about his past record with your what have you done for me lately attitude. Those years are gone and he is winning now.

Bring more wussy comments, I've got more for ya.

Mr. O. wrote on September 29, 2008 12:54 AM: ITS NOT UNR!! ITS NEVADA, DAMMIT!! This is just proof that our bastard step-children down south STILL can't get anything right...

TrueRebelFan wrote on September 28, 2008 08:16 PM: The defensive end coaches and players are to blame for this loss. All they had to do was take out the big, slow DE's and replace them with strong safety, or even running backs and tell them to stay home and defend the end or else sit the bench, period. A simple 5-3 is all it takes to slow down this type of offense. That and 1 on 1 on the receivers with the safeties playing near the 3 linebackers. Had they done that and taken away all of the gains their QB had on naked bootlegs, they could have won. Maybe the DE's bet the over, who knows.

Reb fan wrote on September 28, 2008 06:58 PM: I see RebCam's point. But I'm one of the fans that has season tickets to football and basketball. I support the teams in good years and bad. Go to almost all the games (as painful as it may be).

And I'm sorry, but I'm done supporting Sanford. How many YEARS should fans be expected to suffer let down after let down?

It's like this. . .

Reno fired Chris Tormey after going 0-4 against UNLV during the Robinson years. That worked out well for them. Any program that had any type of commitment to winning in football would do the same thing after losing 4 straight years to their rival (including TWO horrible home blowouts).

And for those that say I'm not a good fan or a traitor or whatever, I would ask. . . How many years should I wait? When is it "ok" to demand some results? If it's not after 4 years, how about 5? How about 8? How about a decade of losing? Can we ask for change after a decade without being called a coward in all caps? LOL

Everyone has their own answer, but mine is this year. Another losing season means it's time for change.

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