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BATTLE PLAN: UFC challenges NFL to fight

White: MMA to be bigger globally than football










One wears a coat and tie, and the other swears he'll never be a suit. At first glance, there might appear to be few similarities between Roger Goodell and Dana White.

Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, oversees the most popular sport in America. He's in a position of unrivaled strength.


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  • But look at the big picture, and a challenger is emerging. White, the president of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, has realistic plans to conquer the sports world.

    "When you look at the world of sports right now, nothing in this country is bigger than the NFL," White said. "There was always that big argument whether baseball was bigger than football or whatever. There's no argument. The NFL is huge. I don't (care) if you didn't watch one football game all season, everybody watches the Super Bowl.

    "But I know for a fact -- I don't think -- that we're going to be the biggest sport in the world."

    Tough talk, for sure. Yet there's an important distinction to make -- White is not predicting the UFC will eclipse the NFL in the United States; he's saying it will be bigger in every country but this one.

    "When it comes to rivaling the NFL, we're a completely different business," he said.

    The NFL has inherent advantages such as gambling, fantasy leagues and fans' lifelong loyalties to teams and their identification with star players who are glorified in the mainstream media.

    The next mixed martial arts fantasy league will be the first, betting on the sport is in its infancy, and Brock Lesnar or Georges St. Pierre are not about to become as popular as Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    However, the NFL's worldwide reach seems to be limited. Golf is propped up by Tiger Woods. The NBA makes it living by marketing stars Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. The UFC has, in White's estimation, a product with unlimited global appeal.

    "When I say it's going to be the biggest sport in the world," White said, "people either think I'm being a promoter ... and trying to pump up my product or I'm a lunatic. When I break it down for you, it does make sense.

    "The NFL has been spending billions of dollars trying to break into other countries, and it's not happening. You know why? Because nobody (cares) about football in other countries. They didn't grow up playing it, they don't understand the rules, and they're not invested in the teams.

    "The people in London or Canada or Mexico are never going to care about the New York Giants. It's like saying cricket is going to be big here someday. Soccer never really even made it big here, but it's huge around the rest of the world."

    In the past nine years, the UFC has gone from freak-show outcast status to the world's largest pay-per-view content provider. It is available in more than 500 million homes worldwide on some form of television, in 17 languages.

    White has staged nine events in Europe (England, Ireland and Germany), is making inroads in Canada and has his future sights set on Australia, Brazil, France, Japan, Macau and Mexico, among other countries.

    "This sport is going to keep growing. I do believe it hasn't scratched the surface yet," said Marc Ratner, UFC vice president for regulatory affairs and the former executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission. "The growth in just the last five years is staggering to me."

    White's business strategy started with television exposure, which was nonexistent in January 2001, when he convinced Station Casinos owners Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta to purchase the UFC for $2 million.

    "When I first got into this thing, my goal was to get this back on television. First of all, we had to be on pay per view. But I knew what we really needed was to get this thing on free TV," White said. "Think about what a lofty goal that is. At the time that we bought this thing, it wasn't allowed on pay per view. Porn is on pay per view, but UFC was not allowed on pay per view. That's the uphill battle."

    In 2006, the UFC experienced a breakthrough by doing an estimated $222 million in pay-per-view sales, and ratings are soaring for its reality show on Spike TV.

    The company, which has expanded from two employees to 114, is worth an estimated $1 billion, and the UFC 100 card Saturday at Mandalay Bay is expected to be the largest-grossing mixed martial arts event in history.

    All the success has attracted the attention of the national media, slowly but surely, with ESPN, Sports Illustrated and major newspapers covering the UFC as a legitimate sport.

    "It's like night and day. For so long, nobody would even cover us. The mainstream media had the blinders on," White said. "It was baseball, basketball, football and hockey, and they did not look at anything else, except boxing. We built this business without them. But it feels good to finally be recognized."

    The growing pains -- the struggle for respectability -- are mostly in the past.

    "I can take two guys and put them in an octagon, and they can use any martial art they want, it transcends all cultural barriers, all language barriers," White said. "We're all human beings, and fighting is in our DNA. We get it and we like it. It doesn't have to be explained to us.

    "Our global plan is moving faster than I thought it would. Our first nine years were the hardest. We have a successful track record now.

    Contact reporter Matt Youmans at myoumans@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2907.

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    JR wrote on July 15, 2009 11:23 AM: What a farce, the ufc is not even bigger than boxing. Hatton made of 10 mil in his loss to Pacman, Mir made 45 g in his loss to Lesnar. You would think a punk like White would pay his headliners a little more money before lining his own pockets. If this sport is so big, why would De la Hoya be able to fight a corpse and make more money than any ufc fighter has ever been paid? Just wait until these ufc guys figure out how underpaid they are and revolt against White who is getting rich on their blood. Couture tried to, but had to come crawling back because he was still under contract.


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    Greg wrote on July 08, 2009 11:08 PM: If people enjoy MMA and UFC, then go for it and have a great time. Diversity and choice in entertainment offerings is one thing that makes this country great.


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    Greg wrote on July 08, 2009 10:56 PM: RE: Matt, Vril

    The promo photo on wire services of Brock Lesnar shows someone who is clearly puffed up, for MMA competition. The physical image raises some flags about his future health in, say, 20-25 years. He's pretty big, for dumbells.

    I understand his background is collegiate wrestling champion at Minnesota, and then a stint with WWE, which speaks for itself there.

    With an understanding that everyone receives the same kind of protein shakes for a year, I don't think anyone throwing kicks to the lower legs would be able to withstand someone like middle linebacker Ray Lewis rushing forward to impose his will on them in an octagon.

    Size, speed, range, power, flexibility, internal clock, internal rhythm (to maximize impact) and balance all add up to big advantage factors, but the biggest factor is one person imposing their will on the other. Ray Lewis is someone who can definitely impose his will. There are others in the NFL also, and hitting them hard won't slow them down. It just turns up the motor.

    Yeah, Lesnar, he looks like Frank Bruno back in 95. Give me someone like Lewis, or 185 pound Rocky Marciano, or Chuck Norris, who is the real deal in martial arts. I doubt Norris would have ever competed in something like MMA, even for the money.

    Martial areas is a defensive science.

    As for comparing boxing to MMA, in boxing the competitors wear heavy, fully padded gloves, big difference in impact, though even padded fists do significant bruising, sometimes more, in a long, busy fight.

    Again, I stand by my first post. Heavy weight fighters in the USA are hard to find that can win and promote.
    The USA is not Cuba, thus MMA.


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    Jonathan B wrote on July 08, 2009 06:05 PM: I've been a long time fan of MMA and I'm just surprised at how much it's grown. I'm proud to be a fan of such a great sport. Anyone who doesn't like it, good for them! You like what you like and I like what I like. There's no need to have the same interests!


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    Matt wrote on July 08, 2009 05:13 PM: To Greg, who clearly has no conception of what Mixed Martial Arts actually is.

    It is no more dangerous then boxing or football. Considering you can have an MMA fight without one punch being delivered to the head, your statement is absurd. Unlike boxing, where you can have up to 12 rounds of constant blows and trauma to the head, an MMA fight is 3 five minute rounds (5 five minute rounds in a championship fight). Durings this period you can be in any postions from striking, grappling, clinching, wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, ect. It is no more dangerous then any other combat sport, and less so in some cases.


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    Greg wrote on July 08, 2009 04:18 PM: RE: Vril

    It's just four words, hype.

    Super heavyweights in boxing, some are surely getting help from something, to get that big in "look". The honest kid cannot compete, without help. The days of a 185lb Marciano ruling the heavyweight division are behind us, as the values and incentives of the sport have been changed by big money. So, the industry has become somewhat of a bust for big ticket events that promote the energy-buzz of the gaming industry.

    So, we have the emergence of UFC and MMA.

    Chuck Norris is the real deal in MA, but I would be one to believe that Chuck is not someone who strongly supports UFC and MMA. Getting in an octogon and beating the crap out of each other goes against the pure defensive culture and beauty-philosophy of martial arts training. It's simply about the money, not so much sport, bottom line.

    Again, you don't know what you are talking about regarding professional fighters and professional football players. If the rules and protections are going to be at a minimum, it is size, strength, flexibility and imposing one's will that will emerge the victor. Guys like Lawrence Taylor, or Ray Lewis, know how to impose their will, no matter someone kicking at their lower legs. It wouldn't be enough.






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    Moe.Greene wrote on July 08, 2009 12:40 PM: I expect a bunch of neanderthals to view anyone who exhibits any negativity as being a hater but this is a bit absurd.

    Yes, the RJ is log-rolling and there is nothing wrong for pointing it out. And yes, our b.s. detectors come out when claims are made regarding the sport's popularity.

    But the fact is that outside of the U.S. countries have their NFL equivalent. Mainly soccer but also F1 racing. No sport will achive the popularity those two share and even in the U.S. the UFC is a third tier sport, at best.


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    derek.marlowe wrote on July 08, 2009 11:57 AM: greg,
    I have never seen a guy get every point wrong like you did.
    The footballers cant fight on this level, get some sense.
    The UFC is safer than most sports, especially foot ball.
    You dont need a special stadium for UFC.
    You dont need big name athletes to become boxers to win in the UFC, what a lame comment.


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    MJ wrote on July 08, 2009 11:44 AM: Greg,

    Dana White said that the sport *WILL* be bigger than the NFL worldwide, he never claimed it is currently. This makes a lot of sense, American football has been around for a very long time and has not made any significant strides in popularity outside the US and maybe Canada. The young UFC is already very popular in Canada, stages regular events in the UK and has recently tackled Germany. Oh and lets not forget about Asia, countries like Japan and korea and vietnam are very rooted in martial arts and more recently mixed martial arts, so it's only a matter of time before the UFC is the brand of choice there as well.

    Secondly, your comment about the UFC being like cock-fighting and being more dangerous than NFL or boxing is extremely outdated and uninformed. For your knowledge, there has been only 1 death or serious injury to ever take place as a result of a regulated MMA event. The single death came few weeks after a fight, not during the fight obviously (and I can't recall completely, but I think the fighter had health issues before the fight).

    There are several deaths and serious injuries *EACH YEAR* in boxing. What you fail to understand is that if you get punched in the head because you're outmatched by someone else, in UFC, you can go to the ground, apply some wrestling or jiu-jitsu technique and really turn the whole thing into grappling. Whereas in boxing, if you're outmatched, tought luck, stay in there until you're knocked out or the ref rescues you. There is so much more I can write about this topic, but if you can put your biased opinions aside, and examine the facts, you'll realize that the UFC is a legitimate and safe sport.


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    Kyle wrote on July 08, 2009 11:18 AM: I agree that the UFC will be the biggest sport in the world in 10-20 years. The sport already has a large amount of international fighters on its roster. Fans from Brazil, Canada, The UK and other countries will begin to grow to even larger numbers. Now that MMA gyms are becoming so much more popular than they were 5-10 years ago, the talent that will be coming in the future years will only be getting better and better.


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