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HEALTHY DEBATE: Fan of unpasteurized milk challenges those who say it's unhealthy

Las Vegas Valley resident wants to bring raw milk here

Raw milk isn't pasteurized. Pasteurized milk ... well ... is. And that's all we can state definitively on the issue.

But yes, there is a reason for this story. Las Vegas resident Brett Ottolenghi, owner of Artisanal Foods specialty-food purveyor, is trying to make raw milk available in Las Vegas.


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First, to clear up part of the confusion: Raw milk is a legal commodity in California, Arizona, Utah and 25 other states, but it can't legally be brought into Nevada from those states because that would be a violation of federal law.

But it's not actually illegal in Nevada.

"If you own a cow, you can drink your own milk" produced by it, said Mark French, executive director of the Nevada Dairy Commission. It's not technically illegal to sell raw milk in Nevada, either, but the cows have to be certified by a county dairy commission, and none exist.

"Nobody's ever done this in Nevada," French said of Ottolenghi's campaign. "This is a first."

Ottolenghi's reasoning: Pasteurized milk is bad for the heart, because oxidized fat -- fat heated by a process such as pasteurization -- has been linked to heart disease discovered in autopsies.

Sally Fallon, an author who Ottolenghi credits with convincing him of the importance of raw milk, said that theory dates to a researcher in England during the '60s who noticed a greater incidence of heart disease in areas where milk was pasteurized.

But Libby Lovig, a registered dietitian and vice president of the Dairy Council of Nevada, bluntly refutes the theory.

"Not founded," Lovig said. "Never has been. Hearsay claims that have never been proven."

"I have never heard anything like that before," acknowledged Navid Kazemi, a cardiologist with Nevada Cardiology Associates.

Kazemi said the issue is not something that has been raised by his patients, and that he hasn't seen anything in the literature on the subject.

"I think it's an interesting hypothesis," he said, "but it's not easy to see the link in a real trial." Fallon conceded that no such trials have been done in the United States.

But she maintains that raw milk is superior for several other reasons. It is, she said, "much healthier and much more digestible" than pasteurized milk. Plus, she said, "the proteins are so warped by pasteurization that your body thinks they're foreign and has to mount an immune response." And she said a recent European study of almost 15,000 children indicated that the No. 1 factor for protecting against asthma is raw milk in childhood.

Nonsense, Lovig said. As you might suspect from her earlier comment, Lovig is a clear opponent to the increased consumption of raw milk. Because the dairy council is a joint effort with Utah (formally titled the Dairy Council of Utah/Nevada), it represents a state where raw milk is commercially available and a state where it's not, but there's no division in its policy.

"The Dairy Council stands in both Utah and Nevada are we don't support raw milk or the use of raw milk in any way, shape or form," Lovig said. "Pasteurization of milk doesn't change the nutritional content in any way, shape or form," except that pasteurized milk contains Vitamin D and raw milk does not.

And, Lovig said, pasteurization "makes it a much safer product."

Anna Vickery, an environmental health specialist with the Nevada Dairy Commission, sees increasing the commercial availability of raw milk as "a step backward." Vickery cites the recent recalls of peanut butter and tomatoes "because of the same issues we could have with raw milk," notably contamination of the product.

Whether in a pasture or confined, she said, a cow is likely to eat off the ground where it and other cows defecate and urinate.

"It goes into their system, they poop it out, it goes through to the milk and it does not make them sick, but we will contract E. coli if it comes into the milk, and by pasteurizing it, we eliminate that danger," she said.

"What are we trying to do as public health officials? It's a public health issue we're talking about."

Nonsense, Fallon said, arguing that opponents "are using 40-year-old science."

"Raw milk is designed to strengthen the immune system," she said. "What I'm concerned about is disease caused by pasteurized milk, because those protective components are not there," and if milk is contaminated post-pasteurization, there's more potential for pathogen growth, she said.

A Las Vegas resident we'll call Alexis is such a believer that she breaks federal law to bring in raw milk from Arizona and Utah on a regular basis. She said she has 150 people on her mailing list, and that many of them supply several families, so she thinks she serves about 200 families, with the milk going for $7 to $9 per gallon depending on cow of origin.

Sometimes, she said, the law-breaking aspect gives her pause, but "it seems like we have a lot of support here in the community."

She said her research into the benefits of raw milk have convinced her that "it's much better for bones, for osteoporosis, for every degenerative disease you can imagine."

And she's reassured that she can see the cows and processing facility and ensure that they're clean and sanitary. Actually, both proponents and opponents say there is a higher standard for raw-milk producers.

"The certification process is very cumbersome, and it's that way for a reason," Lovig said.

"Everywhere raw milk is legal, requirements are much higher," Ottolenghi said. "Why don't we keep the cows and farms clean and eliminate bacteria" before it can contaminate?

He has started a petition -- which can be accessed via his Web site, www.artisanalfoods.com/rawmilk -- in an effort to establish a certification process in Clark County.

He knows a statewide process would be even more cumbersome. But there currently are no working dairy farms in Clark County, so Ottolenghi said he and a partner are thinking of establishing a small one themselves.

"The biggest point of this," he said, "is I think we should be allowed to choose what we eat. We should be allowed to choose whatever we feel is healthy."

Contact reporter Heidi Knapp Rinella at hrinella@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0474.

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marbleswife wrote on September 04, 2009 03:07 PM: just to let you know, the hubby is fine and the unpasteurized milk is too.
We started the hubby on 1tsp cyder vinegar( the organic type) ..that along with the milk [at different times of day, obviously] seems to be helping,...your mileage may vary but his bloating and gas pains have eased though not gone, small comforts are still some comforts .

kind regards to all


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marbleswife wrote on August 31, 2009 05:12 AM: ..to add [after reading all comments} This is directed towards the commenter: 'Rational"
hmm, did we have the asthma crisis we have in todays times in the early 30'40' ?... No is the answer and my reason for believing that Asthma and the like are more prevalent now,....lack of immune system responses because of food additives and sterile diet.
Just common sense...go on say it's common sense to be clean,...yes, yes it is but not to make our food 'sterile' there IS a difference .


oh, and all the chemicals people use to spray away germs or bad smells in their homes,....do you think the manufacturers of these products use them in their homes,...I very much doubt it.

I have just taken delivery of some unpasteurized milk, from my milkman here in England where thankfully the bureaucrats haven't got there hands on quite everything ....yet.

It is very delicious, creamy and fuller tasting than pasteurized from the same farm/cows I might add.... my hubby who has an undiagnosed bowel injury [thought to be spastic bowel/IBS?IBD] has taken the first sip this morning and so far has reported, [within an hour of drinking it].... an easing of the swollen feeling in his guts, a dramatic loss of the bloating feeling and trapped gas.

Its looking good, whether he is here tomorrow I will have to wait and see...I'll let u know :]


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marbleswife wrote on August 31, 2009 05:01 AM: i tend to agree with the folks supporting un-pasteurized.
I'm from the school of thought that the less food is 'tampered' with, the 'better' for out bodys it will be, enough of this blanket enforcement of what we can and cannot consume, this is a rock floating in a massive space in a galaxy and we are telling us we can't eat, drink, or consume certain things, its ridiculous....all for the sake of money too....reason unpasteurized isn't on sale....it go's off quicker, same reason they say preservatives are safe too.... shelf life which comes back to $£$£$


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Giusi wrote on July 14, 2009 07:22 PM: I finally tried raw milk, never had it before, and it tastes great. I don't understand why it is a federal crime to transport it to Nevada. If raw milk was a problem, like many others pointed out, it should not be sold anywhere. Please sign the petition!


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Kat wrote on June 22, 2009 05:18 PM: I'm so suprised that the "powers that be" have declared raw milk "unsafe" (note heavy sarcasm). It's not like milk is big business or anything...

Where would they get their $$ if everyone bought milk from local farmers?

--"Whether in a pasture or confined, she said, a cow is likely to eat off the ground where it and other cows defecate and urinate."--

Wow, I'm suprised the human race has survived so long!


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Jimmy Jackson wrote on June 18, 2009 10:57 AM: "How about this. Dont drink any milk none of it is good for you. The only thing that should be drinking cows milk is a calf.And anyone telling you any different is lying and has a agenda."


That means we cant eat butter, sour cream, half and half for our coffee, cheese, whey, etc etc.

Moron people having been living off milk and its by products since the beginning of time.

I guess i shouldnt eat beef either because the only thing that should be eating them are the vultures , lions and tigers.


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mark mcafee wrote on June 17, 2009 10:11 PM: The FDA NIH website for alternative and complementary medicine talks about the value of ancient milk ( raw milk ) and the fact that biodiverse sources of good bacteria and enzymes are missing from the American diet.

Yes...the NIH even says that probiotics and probiotic ( raw milk ) heal and protect against asthma, IBS and allergies. Let me also add that Osteoporis is dramatically improved as are the tendancy to get colds.

Raw milk is what is missing in the American's sterile diet. Those that speak ill of it have not tasted it or researched it. It is absolutely deliciuos when tested chilled, fresh and clean....that is what we have here in CA. Las Vegas is in more than a desert..it is in a raw milk desert and the mirage delicious raw milk in CA is close bu yet so far away. The FDA likes it that way. Black market sources tell me that there is lots of raw milk flowing into LV ( from Colorado and Utah and even CA )....you just have to know where to get the good stuff.

If your raw milk did not taste delicous...it was not clean and it was not chilled properly. Sorry you had such a tramatic experience. Our CA raw milk is outrageously deliciuos.

Mark


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rmolnar wrote on June 17, 2009 03:14 PM: Let those who drink it, decide.


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AZ wrote on June 17, 2009 01:14 PM: I been looking for a raw milk source for a while, this is great news!! We should be alllowed to get raw milk if we want to, if you dont like it, want it or oppose to it, dont drink it!! Is that simple. Is matter of tolerance towards other peoples choices.
I believe that pasteurization kills everything, good and bad on the milk, so they reinforce it with vitamins.
Please let me know when the farm is open, i will be there!!


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Mr. Milk wrote on June 17, 2009 12:45 PM: I have had both. Simply make it ok (legal) to acquire and distribute raw milk...then we can purchase what we want. Keep it simple people.


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